This has
been a pet peeve of mine for quite a while, and I think I’ve finally built up a
headful of enough steam to really just pour out about it. I genuinely cannot stand it whenever someone
brings up the concern of “getting fat”, and it may be because I’ve actually
DONE it a few times to the point that I find worrying about “getting fat” to be
akin to worrying about accidentally becoming a bodybuilder. Size, irrespective of if it’s fat or muscle,
does not “just happen”: it takes work.
And it may not SEEM like work when people eat themselves into obesity
every year, but trust me: they’re putting in the hours to get there. No one accidentally gets fat: it’s through a
dedicated campaign of poor decisions repeated over and over with minimal breaks
in routine or deviations from the plan.
Yes, just like getting jacked, you gotta employ some effort, consistency
and time in order to “get fat”. So let’s
go even further down the rabbit hole to find out why people worrying about
“getting fat” are being silly.
Two of the
most notorious programs for generating the “getting fat” comments are Super
Squats and 5/3/1 Building the Monolith, primarily because both come with some
intense nutritional advice attached: a gallon of milk a day (on top of a diet
heavy in food) for the former, and 1.5lbs of ground beef and a dozen eggs a day
for the latter. “If you eat like that,
you’re just going to get fat”. Alright,
so here’s the thing: if you can “get fat” in 6 weeks you were already fat. No one goes from not fat to fat in 6 weeks:
you instead go from fat to fatter in 6 weeks.
If you start out “not fat” on one of these programs and actually FOLLOW
them (which means doing the conditioning work in Building the Monolith and
actually taking the 3+ deep breaths between EVERY rep in Super Squats) you will
not get fat. In fact, while running
Building the Monolith, I had to go ABOVE the recommended minimums for meat
intake, to around 2-2.5lbs a day, just to recover from the intense training,
and managed to put on about 4.5lbs in 6 weeks.
No one that is training hard is going to get fat in 6 weeks and, in most
cases, they’re actually going to be STRUGGLING to put away enough calories to
recover from that sort of training. I
know when I ran Deep Water my life revolved around eating for 12 weeks, because
I NEEDED calories to recover from my training demand.
Going even
further though, “getting fat” also shows up ALL the time when people talk about
longer timelines of training outside of those two aforementioned programs, to
which I am forced to cop to the idea that, yes, on a long enough timeline,
getting fat IS possible. But so
what? For one: if you end up “getting
fat” in the pursuit of muscular gain, it’s assumed that, while you were
“getting fat”, you WERE engaging in some manner of regular, intense physical
training. You weren’t like the dudes
riding around on scooters at your local Walmart: you were overeating while you
were also pounding away at the training.
You got fat but you ALSO got muscle.
Congrats: muscle is HARD to build.
Far harder than all that fat was.
And, in turn, fat is easy to lose.
Far easier than muscle is. All
you need to do is eat LESS than you were eating. And if you were doing things RIGHT, this is
going to be a blessing. FINALLY, a break
from all this goddamn eating.
Which is the
other thing that I find goofy: people always refute the idea of losing fat
(aka: cutting, as much as I loathe that term) because it’s time spent NOT
building muscle. It’s seen as some sort
of failure if you ever divert away from building muscle and spend time losing
fat instead. To this I say: you aren’t
training hard enough if you feel that way.
If you think spending ALL of your training time building muscle is in
any way sustainable, viable or desirable, you’re screwing around in the
weightroom and not actually training effectively in the first place, so your
opinion on the matter is totally moot.
Anyone that has spent any dedicated time to REALLY seeking to build
muscle KNOWS that breaks NEED to happen.
This is why you see this concept expressed by any individual and program
of worth. Super Squats is 6 weeks
followed by 6 weeks of a low rep 5x5 style program before you start it up
again, DoggCrapp employs “Blast and Cruise” protocols in training, 5/3/1 is
heavily built around rotating programs, John McCallum wrote about the value of
“softening up” before heavy training phases, Stuart McRobert wrote about
starting light on your next training phase after maxing out the value in your
current one, periodization is a thing that’s been realized by EVERY country
that fields successful athletes, etc etc.
The only people who DON’T suggest a break from gaining are youtube
charlatans trying to sell you a product because it sounds sexy to ALWAYS be
gaining muscle. Don’t be gullible.
Which goes
to show the fundamental misunderstanding when someone asks “how do I eat to
make sure I don’t get fat while I’m gaining muscle”. Your lean bulk fantasies are cute, but
they’re telling as well. You’ve already
admitted that you have NO intention of actually training hard enough to put on
any muscle at all during this muscle building phase, because your concern is on
riding some sort of razor’s edge of nutrition so that you eat JUST enough to
put on muscle without accumulating fat, rather than asking the question of “how
the hell am I going to eat enough to be able to recover from this insane
training demand I’ve placed upon myself?”
If you followed Elitefts in the mid 2000s, you know that this was what a
LOT of Dave’s writing was dedicated to: how to actually get in enough calories,
because those dudes were trying to overcome a ridiculous demand in order to
grow. It’s why there are articles
dedicated to how to eat a package of Oreos in 10 minutes, the most effective
way to eat Reeces’ peanut butter cups, the first telling of J M Blakely’s
“extra large pizza with half a bottle of oil” diet, etc etc. The people that are planning on succeeding
aren’t asking how to eat to not get fat: they’re asking how to eat so that they
can get enough calories in their gut before it explodes.
Don’t worry
about getting fat: worry about why you’re worrying about it.
You're articles are just punching so many people right in the stomach - me included. I love how you call "us" all out and very simply explain how it actually is.
ReplyDeleteThis article felt initially like a real low blow to me. But man, it's really my issue and it's not like you are aiming at anyone in particular. But after the initial 10 second rise of blood pressure, all I can say is that you are right. And your last line sums it up perfectly.
This road of strength and size is very new to me, I've never been around people that followed that path. This kind of training is simply not so common on continental Europe as it is in the US. And that's a shame and a big loss.
I am finding my way around it, but it's definitely not an easy task, as nowadays you drown in information.
While I think I've been training hard, I came to realize lately that I just arrive at a strength level and technical proficiency to get an honest idea what training hard means and feels like.
Also, as I've never build much size nor strength and only started it when I hit my 30s. Meaning I've got a lot of ground to cover, many beginner mistakes to make and go through. I slowly reach a point that I am not skinny anymore and combined with the growth curve I had on the compound lifts, look forward to getting fat, for the first time ever. Mainly because now I know to a certain extend how hard I need to push, both nutrition and training.
Speaking of training, this year will be a little tight on time, as I have plenty of stuff filling up my agenda. So, I figured I do something that is straightforward and can be done from my living room gym. Step in your reference to 531 BtM above. It is so easy that I can make this fit into my day and week schedule, for a couple of cycles even. That it's "only" days of lifting suits me, that I need to get out of the house to move is great too, as I sit on my ass in front of my notebook all day long. The moment it's not snowing anymore I can do at least one longer bike right a week. I've got a weight vest too.
While I cannot do any dips at home, I figure I just do decline pushups on pushup handles. That's not going to be easy for 100+ reps either.
I looked online and one of the first things I found was your reddit summary of your run-through of 531 BtM. I liked your ways of giant sets. I have to see how much I can do with my equipment to get it done in as little time as possible.
Man, not sure if you can read this between the lines, but you lit up a fire in me :)
It really means a lot you took the time to write all that dude, and I'm glad to hear that it's had an impact. Good on you to go forward with BtM. For the dips, I had a buddy that rigged up 2 saw horses to get it done, but your plan moving forward will certainly work. It's all just upper body pressing at one point. Excited to hear how it turns out for you!
DeleteI do have one question on this subject, and trying hard to not venture into the "don't overthink it" category (which has been a number one problem for me), but before you take on a serious mass program (like the one mentioned in the post and Mass Made Simple by Dan John) do you see ANY benefit in cutting down some of the bodyfat before starting? We're not talking obese here just some Festive Season lumber hanging about.
ReplyDeleteAs an aside your articles and writing over on reddit has changed my view on strength for the better. Thank you
Appreciate the kind words dude.
DeleteThe issue with discussing "benefit" is that it doesn't exist in a vacuum. What could be a benefit to one could be a detriment to another. If one's goal is to get as big as possible, losing fat works against that goal, so in such a case, that would not have any benefit. If one wants to be leaner as they gain, starting off lean will give them more wiggle room. One has to start off knowing their goals first.
Thank you I really appreciate the reply! And putting it like that makes a whole lot of sense. I am overthinking it and at the same time I need to think about it differently, as you say "what is my goal"?
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