This is something that dawned on me the other day that I felt like sharing. I pretty recent wrote a piece on “doing what everyone else is doing will get you the results everyone else is getting”, and this goes down a similar path, but still: the observation is entertaining because it allows you to further understand the insanity of my logic. Allow me to explain.
Around 2006
or so, I had been training for 6-7 years and enjoyed the success that came from
simply smashing my head into the wall as hard as I could and eating a lot of
food (side note: that method STILL works by the way). A buddy of mine had turned me on to Super Squats,
and, of course, from there the rest is history, but the story AFTER the happily
ever after from that is that I got FAR into the “hardgainer rabbit hole”. I read Stuart McRobert’s “Brawn”, which also
got me pointed toward all manner of abbreviated training, to the point that my
long time readers (hey folks: we hit 3 million views! And we’re on 10 years running now…holy crap!)
will know that this whole blog started as I was just BARELY clawing myself out
of that pit of abbreviated training obsession.
But why was
I so into this hardgainer stuff? Those
of you familiar with my history know that I grew up a fat kid and, until VERY
recently, had what would best be described as “endomorphic tendencies”. I never had an issue gaining weight, and
tended to be a bit on the dumpy side of things: a hardgainer I was not. But my “logic” was bulletproof: if THIS stuff
can make hardgainers gain muscle, just imagine what it can do for normal folks!
This all happened BEFORE Starting Strength was a thing
And so off I
went! I drank the gallon of milk a day
and did the 20 breathing squats. I
followed the Dave Tate “nutrition” protocols of the early to mid 2000s and
tried my hardest to eat entire packages of Oreos, Poptarts by the boxful, and all
other manner of debauchery best fit for “hardgainers”. I focused on making that scale weight grow
whenever I found my lifts stalling. I
did all the tricks.
And hey
folks: it DID work. Yeah, I got pretty
fat, but my late teens and early 20s were some prime growing years. It was the first time I ever managed to get
to be over 200lbs, which, being completely and totally transparent with you
all, I very much miss, but I’m at a point in my life where that’s not the priority
(more on that in a bit). But herein we
observe the logic at work: if I wanted to put on muscle, I wasn’t going to
follow the advice for people who put on muscle easily (no thanks “bodybuilder
training”): I followed advice to put muscle on people that are STRUGGLING to
gain.
Well here I
am 15ish years later and I realize I’m doing this all over again. How’s that?
Check this out: wanna know a GREAT way to train to put on some size? Do some fat loss workouts.
I can already feel how much you hate me after you try this
Come
again? Yeah, for one, I get that “fat
loss workout” in and of itself is pretty silly.
Exercise, in general, doesn’t burn a whole lot of calories, and the way
to lose fat is through some fork putdowns and table pushaways. Diet diet diet. Yeah, I get it, BUUUUUT we can’t pretend like
there aren’t training protocols out there with a goal to generate a serious
metabolic demand in order to help stimulate fat loss. Examples?
Of course.
The classic “Tabata
front squats” from Dan John is marketed as a fat loss workout, as it is short
and STUPIDLY high in intensity. It
brings your heart rate into the redzone quickly, and then you can spend several
hours “coming down” from it, hence a serious metabolic hint in short
order. Many High Intensity Interval
Style training protocols are similar in that regard, along with some Crossfit
WODs like Grace, Isabel, Fran, etc. If
you look at the core of all of these protocols, it’s pretty much the same
thing: take a BIG movement that uses a lot of muscles (taking stuff from the
floor and putting it overhead is a GREAT example) and then do a lot of reps of
it in a short time with minimal (if any) breaks. It’s totally anaerobic, and basically you are
trying to outrun your heart and lungs before you flood with lactic acid and
die.
This took me 1:45 to complete and several hours to recover from
But wanna
know something cool about fat loss workouts?
Since they are so metabolically demanding, they can make you REALLY
hungry…which is AWESOME when you’re trying to gain weight. Because truth be told, you can undo 60
minutes of exercise with 30 seconds of eating.
So if you’re struggling to get in the calories due to a lack of
appetite, a quick fat burner workout can go a LONG way in opening up avenues
for more food intake. But along with
that, if our goal is to turn all these calories into muscle, what better way than
to sprinkle in these little 2-10 minute workouts on top of hard and heavy
training? Folks, most lifting workouts
last 60-90 minutes, and those of you with epic 3 hour long “workouts” are
spending WAY more time resting than lifting.
So for 90 minutes in your day, you do something physical…and then you
spend the remaining 22.5 hours being stagnant?
What do you think your body will reflect more: what you’re doing for 1.5
hours a day or what you’re doing for 22.5?
BUT, if we keep hammering the body with these little intense
microworkouts, we keep triggering that response to change. If we do that and DON’T feed it, it’s a fat loss
workout….but if we do that AND feed it, we are primed for growth.
A few
personal stories: I’ve been doing daily Tabata kettlebell front squats for the
past month as part of this current mass building phase, and it’s just been
remarkable for my conditioning along with keeping on the lean side while I
continue to mainline calories. And the
real origin of this whole “doing things backwards” come by way of my Dad. When my grandma came to visit us one day, she
brought a bunch of “Slimfast” shakes (this was the 90s, go figure) that she
left in our fridge. My dad discovered
that they were delicious…and was drinking them alongside a ham sandwich at
lunch. Damndest thing: those “weightloss
shakes” are FANTASTIC for weight gain when you drink them WITH food. And hell, I can keep going down the backwards
rabbit hole when I discuss my whole “training drives nutrition: not the other
way around” idea, which STILL blows peoples’ minds…BUT this is already getting
on the long side here, so let me conclude…
Try doing
things backwards for a bit. Put your
heavy compounds at the END of your workouts instead of the beginning: you’ll be
able to push MUCH harder on them because you don’t need to save any energy for
the rest of the workout. Eat and train
like a hardgainer if you’re an easy gainer.
Train for fat loss while you’re going for weight gain. Run “punt block” on the first down. Honestly, when I observe the results of
people doing everything “right”, doing things wrong seems a lot more appealing.
Great post as always. Funny you articulate "do fat loss workouts to gain weight" like this now as I've come to almost the exact same conclusion recently. I've been thinking more and more about complexes, and thought it funny how Dan John has referred to them as one of the best tools for fat loss and one of the best tools for hypertrophy. That was the example where it really clicked for me, and prompted me to look around and see how true it was of so many training ideas.
ReplyDeleteDan is just a treasure. We're going to be unpacking his lessons for decades. Glad you appreciated the post dude!
DeleteIt reminds me of a Geoff Nuepert quote about his kettlebell muscle book, "The only difference between a fat loss complex and a hypertrophy complex is how much you eat."
DeleteI love that!
DeleteThe more I read you the more i think you are Lao Tzu of lifting weights
ReplyDelete"Lao Tzu lived in a hut and ate straw!"
DeleteBut King of the Hill reference aside, I take that as quite a compliment! I've been on a bit of a "duality kick" recently.
Great stuff as always.
ReplyDeleteI've been banging a similar drum with friends for years - train more and eat more to lose weight. Training causes neat little adaptations that make you look good, and food helps you train harder to get them!
If you eat 1000 calories a day sure you'll lose weight but you'll be next to useless performance-wise and look flat as a pancake.
You can still be hungry and in a calorie deficit at 3000+ calories a day if you train for it, you don't need (and probably shouldn't) starve yourself.
Never made sense to me why the default cutting strategy is "I'm gonna eat less then train less because I can't recover from a higher training load".
Delete1500 in minus 2000 out is the same as 3500 in minus 4000 out but you'll be a damn sight better off eating more food!
That follow up comment you're making ties into what John Berardi has talked about with g-flux. And it makes SO much sense. Took me a really bad weight cut to figure it out. When you're not eating anything, you're not getting nutrients. You're going to feel like garbage. When you're putting a bunch of nutrition into your body and then burning it off, you're getting healthy.
DeleteThings need to be thought out a few steps beyond the first, haha.
Exactly that! It just feels wrong to cut on so much food haha
DeleteLot of respect for John Berardi - he's not afraid to use himself as a guinea pig for all his stuff. I remember years ago when Intermittent Fasting was the cool thing all the kids were doing, he took every popular protocol and ran them back to back with proper body composition measures, bloodwork etc and wrote them all up in a free ebook.
Just because he wanted to see what happened!
100%. Berardi has been the man for a long while. I started following him on facebook and he's STILL getting things done.
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