Thursday, June 27, 2024

IT’S SO HARD TO GET FAT

I genuinely have no idea where this one is going to go, but I’ve had this thought circulating for a bit now and it’s pretty entertaining to me.  I was thinking about Paul Anderson the other day, primarily because, as I said in the very first entry to this blog: when my mind idles, it defaults right to getting bigger and stronger, and I’ll think of WEIRD stuff when that happens.  So anyway, what I specifically was thinking about was how Paul was a firm believer in the value of sugar as it related to getting bigger and stronger.  Whereas most meatheads were…well…meatheads, and therefore focused on meat and protein, Paul believed that SUGAR was necessary for the digestion of all of that meat and protein, and it’s presence WITH the protein was crucial for the process of digesting the protein and getting bigger and stronger.  That’s honestly not too far off from the en vogue notion of pairing post workout protein with some manner of insulin spiker to create an anabolic effect via the “storage” mechanism of insulin to drive protein into the muscles…but Paul took this in an interesting direction.  Primarily, Paul had the habit of drinking HALF A PINT of honey during strenuous workouts, alongside a protein drink consisting of “ice cream, milk, soybean meal, and raw eggs”.  To crunch the numbers on that, there are about 60 calories in a tablespoon of honey, 17g of carbs, of which 16 are sugar.  Half a pint is netting you 16 times that amount: 960 calories, 256g of sugar…which was what was consumed DURING the workout ALONGSIDE his “protein” concoction of ice cream and milk, being a part of the OG “Gallon of Milk a Day” tribe.  All of this eating and drinking got Paul to a bodyweight of 360lbs at his heaviest at 5’9, and a competition weight of 304lbs when he won Gold at the 1956 Olympics.


Paul ready to crush dreams and break hearts


 

What’s the point of that history lesson?  At 304lbs in the 1950s and 360lbs at his all-time heaviest, Paul was absolutely a big man…but compared to today?  You can go into any Walmart and you’re BOUND to find at least one 5’9 360lb man, to say nothing of significantly heavier men than that.  We have a television series titled “My 600lb life” that documents humans that have massively eclipsed (pun partially intended) Paul’s downright diminutive 360lb frame.  And Paul got there by DRINKING HONEY AND ICE CREAM as though they were beverages.  He had a goal to get as heavy as he possibly could so that he could lift as much weight as he could, and he couldn’t catch up to reality TV stars of our current era…peculiar, no?

 

Let’s take another case study: Bruce Randall.  My love and admiration of Mr. Randall has been well documented, because any man who can get a 680lb squat after breaking their leg in 7 places from a motorcycle accident by employing a style on the good morning that makes the internet scream is definitely my kind of hero.  Bruce, like Paul, understood the direct relationship between how much he weighed and how strong he was, and he achieved an absurd bodyweight of 401lbs at a height of 6’2 so that he could be one of the strongest humans of his time, before then cutting down to a svelte bodyweight of 222lbs to win the 1959 NABBA Mr Universe.  And he accomplished his 401lb bodyweight employing a progressive overload approach to nutrition, gradually adding extra food to each meal, “an extra chop, glass of milk, slice of bread”, etc, eventually totally out to an average (as reported by Randy Roach) of “eight to ten quarts of milk a day along with 12 to 18 eggs” and a semi-regular breakfast of “two quarts of milk, 28 fried eggs and a loaf and a half of bread”.  Once again, because math is fun, that’s a breakfast of 1,171 calories of milk (64g of fat and protein, 88g carbs), 2,262 calories of eggs (145g of fat and protein) NOT counting the butter they were fried in, and (assuming 20 slices per loaf and a wheat bread) 2100 calories of bread, (about 30g of fat, 100g of protein, and 360g of carbs): a total of 5,533 calories, about 240g of fat, 309g of protein and 448g of carbs…for breakfast!


It's absurd to think that he was nearly 100lbs away from his al time high in this photo

 


And again, is a 401lb 6’2 man a big man?  Absolutely!  Is that the fattest a man can be at 6’2?  Not in the slightest.  Hell, at 1” taller, Eddie Hall was 433lbs, and ALSO a strong human, to say nothing of the people you’ll see at any public gathering that have “achieved” an even higher bodyweight through sheer “grit and determination”.  And examples are abound of this in other historical locations: the Saxon Trio were famous for their eating feats, which included a breakfast of “24 eggs and 3 pounds of smoked bacon; porridge with cream, honey, marmalade and tea with plenty of sugar. At three o’clock they had dinner: ten pounds of meat was consumed with vegetables (but not much potatoes); sweet fruits, raw or cooked, sweet cakes, salads, sweet puddings, cocoa and whipped cream and very sweet tea. Supper, after the show, they had cold meat, smoked fish, much butter, cheese and beer.”  If you look at the Saxons, none of them would even register as “fat” by today’s standards.  What about legendary J.C. Hise?  Along with also abiding by the Gallon of Milk a day, according to a report on the 1934 Senior National Weightlifting Championships, J.C. Hise “steadily ate for over two hours, consuming half a gallon of coffee, much water, and unaccounted for stacks of grub” prior to arriving to compete and finish third, beating out the legendary John C. Grimek.  Was J.C. large?  At 5’9 and 298lbs, most certainly.  Can he measure up to what we see today?  Not at all.  John McCallum, creator and consumer of the “get big drink”, made up of “two quarts of milk in a bowl, at least a day’s supply of the Quick Gain Weight, two cups of skim milk powder, two eggs, four tablespoons of peanut butter, half a brick of chocolate ice cream, a banana, four tablespoons of malted milk powder and six tablespoons of corn syrup”, consumed on TOP of a diet heavy in whole foods.  John was a meaty man, based off his photos, but definitely not some sort of land whale that you’d anticipate based off his dietary intake.



J.C. Hise and John McCallum, respectively.  Big men, yes, but not what society would call "mega obese"



 

I could honestly just keep on listing more and more examples here because I really find this stuff fascinating (oh hell, also go look up Hugh Cassidy and Louis Cyr), but I’m already at over 1000 words and haven’t even made my point yet, but considering the majority of the examples I’m listing trained in an era where steroids either did not exist or were merely in their infancy, it’s worth appreciating that they were eating in manners that common sense would tell us will ABSOLUTELY result in ballooning up JUST like the modern obese people we see today that have completely surpassed Bruce Randall’s 401lbs…yet Bruce remains the heaviest among the group.  In spite of ALL of their efforts to gain, these folks could NOT match the obesity that we see today…and why is that?      


Exactly how I feel whenever anyone brings up genetics

 


Because as I wrote in the title: it’s HARD to get fat.  People that have grown to 500lbs and up got there through a VERY dedicated and concentrated campaign of physical neglect.  They had to make some of the WORST nutritional decisions possible, and they had to do this consistently over a prolonged period of time, ignoring all the discomfort that comes alongside this lifestyle.  And, on the flipside of the equation, dudes that are out there training REALLY hard in the pursuit of trying to become as big and strong as possible are simply putting their bodies through so much trauma and toil that they simply do not possess the ability to grow so monstrously fat.  Hell, the best example we have is strongman competitor Glenn Ross, who grew to a top weight of 475lbs at 6’1, and in doing so remains the exception among the norm of athletes who eat like it’s their job and STILL cannot get mega-obese, as you’ll observe whenever you view the dietary videos of dudes like Brian Shaw and Thor talking about how “eating is the hardest part of the job.”

 

What sort of helpful conclusions can we draw from this information?  One is that, by referencing a “pre-steroid era” grouping of athletes, I’m also referencing a “pre-current nutritional debauchery” era of humanity, because our current state of nutrition is absolutely abysmal in the west.  These dudes simply didn’t have access to the ridiculous food-like products that we currently have: they had to “force” themselves to gain on good old whole foods, pasture raised eggs/chicken, grassfed cows, locally grown fruits, veggies, tubers and grains, etc.  Even their “junk” food was healthier than what we had, and Paul Anderson even had the wherewithal to appreciate that the honey he got from local beekeepers seem to provide him better energy than the stuff he got from the grocery store.  In turn, this leads to a second conclusion: you aren’t going to get “accidentally obese” in your pursuit of growing bigger and stronger.  It’s HARD to get fat: you have to make a LOT of bad decisions, and this includes a diet consisting primary of modern processed junk and foodlike products AND engaging in a campaign of NO physical activity.  The fears of “getting fat” are just as unfounded as the fears of accidentally getting “too muscular”: you have to make an effort to get there.


I suppose sometimes we can accidentally achieve one in pursuit of the other

 


Meanwhile, what DID happen to these dudes when they went out of their way to try to find a way to get in as much quality food as possible while training as hard as possible?  They ALL got incredibly big and strong, to the point that we’re STILL talking about them decades if not a hundred+ years later.  They became legends from their efforts.  Did you ever hear about the kid that ate a moderate surplus on a long slow bulk employing the optimal amount of frequency of 2x per week for all of their muscle groups?  Yeah: me neither.  Damndest thing really.              

6 comments:

  1. This is a big reason why I try to go to the gym on a regular basis. I just like eating whatever without becoming too overweight.

    "Eat unapologetically" shows up in at least a few books on strength programs. I like that.

    I've always sort of thought that all food is anabolic, to a degree.

    I think the lean bulk crowd doesn't really account for the idea that muscle synthesis (probably) requires energy to build, on top of just needing the protein available to do so. Plus it's probably pretty hard to pinpoint just how many calories is 500 extra, because activity levels might vary from day to day (Did I walk 1 or 2 miles today?, etc)

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    1. It requires a significant degree of hubris to believe you can calculate the caloric needs of your body to any degree of accuracy. The body is smarter than us: it will tell us when we're hungry.

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  2. This post reminded me of when I tried Super Squats two years ago, just under 6 foot weighing in at around 180lbs.

    One of the other trainees at my gym, who was clinically obese at 6'5" and 300+ lbs, saw me get through 20 reps at 2 plates and struck up a conversation. He said he was impressed at my drive and work ethic since he knew what Super Squats was and didn't think he could handle it. We also talked a little bit about diet and his struggle trying to get to a lower bodyweight.

    Meanwhile I'd just seen him work up to a top set of good mornings, 5 reps at 405lbs with his back so low it went parallel to the floor. Then get some high rep OHP work in at the weight I was squatting.

    One of the most confused conversations I've ever had, the grass is always greener I guess.

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    1. That's a fantastic interaction there! Definitely goes to show the difference between eating your way to 600lbs vs eating your way toward being an awesome strength athlete.

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  3. According to the man himself, chocolate bars and ice cream were the secret to Mariusz Pudzianowski's success. Who am I to argue with that?

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    1. Bacon too! Haha. When God was creating Mariusz in "create a character" mode, he was using cheat codes

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